This is a vitally-important interview by Redacted News‘ Clayton Morris of former Pennsylvania Congressman Curt Weldon, who served for 20 years, until he was forced-out in 2006.
A former Fire Chief, Congressman Weldon was Vice-Chair of the Armed Services Committee and the House Homeland Security Committee. Weldon was also the co-chair of the Duma-Congress Study Group, the official inter-parliamentary relationship between the United States and Russia.
He claims that 20 years ago, all sides were onboard for peace and for normalizing relations with Russia – except for those who were pulling the strings behind the Bushes, the Clintons and the Obamas – many of whom he says were among the 51 Intelligence Community officials who recently had their Security Clearances pulled by President Trump.
A seasoned politician, Weldon refuses to get baited into making any statements that could ever be construed as “conspiracy theory” but he calls this group “Scumbags in Intelligence who use it for their own personal gain” and who don’t care how many millions of people they kill and impoverish in the process.
As a former Fire Chief, he says he toured the basement of the World Trade Center after the first attack in 1993 and he also toured Ground Zero, again in the evening of September 11, 2001. He describes the 9/11 Commission Report as a “cover-up”.
He knew this, not just as a firefighter but because, as Vice-Chair of the Armed Services Committee he was in communication with members of the military datamining team at Able Danger, several of whose members individually contacted him to de-bunk the 9/11 Report and who informed him about Able Danger’s pre-9/11 intelligence.
Members of the Able Danger team included Army Lt Col Tony Shaffer, US Navy Captain Scott Philpott, career Defense Intelligence Executive Eileen Preisser and Army Major and Chief Intelligence Officer, Erik Klinesmith.
Congressman Weldon says that in 2005, he wrote up a manuscript detailing their findings but he was warned by his lawyers that if he were to publish this, “They’ll kill you.”
As an aside, I can say that all of the videos that I’ve ever posted about Able Danger, with Field McConnell and others have been taken down. My webpages and articles are still there but all of the videos are gone.
In 2000, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld had heartily endorsed Weldon’s campaign to become Chairman of the Armed Services Committee but when Weldon told him in 2005 that he wanted the Able Danger team to testify before Congress, Don said, “No way.”
Then, the 2.5 terabytes of data collected by Able Danger two years before the 9/11 attack was destroyed by a Pentagon employee and the entire project was covered-up by this same criminal element within the US Government.
Without going into much detail, Weldon says his daughter’s house was raided and her life “ruined” and that, “What they did led to my son’s death.” Rather than risk any further attacks on his family, Weldon left politics.
He describes how when Tony Shaffer wrote his book, ‘Dark Heart’, which touched on the topic of 9/11, he had undergone the customary protocol of having a commanding officer to review and approve the of book’s release but then, Weldon says, the Deep State got wind of the book and they issued a Cease and Desist order.
The book was already being sold in bookstores, Weldon continues, “So our Government, using Taxpayer Money, bought all 10,000 First Edition copies and destroyed them. Then, under oath, then they gave Tony the right to publish a redacted version.”
When Weldon recently asked Shaffer what it was that they’d redacted from the original, Shaffer said it was only about the role of Philip Zelikow, the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission – which is a matter of public record and not classified information!
This corrupt element of the US Government also hid the fact that, in 2002, Osama bin Laden had received life-saving extended medical treatment at a military hospital outside of Teheran and how he was then hidden for several years in the small Iranian village of Ladiz near the Pakistani border. All of this, while the George W Bush administration pushed Western nations into the War in Afghanistan, premised on “Looking for bin Laden”.
This pointless carnage lasted for 20 years. 2,500 Americans came home in body bags, with thousands more losing their arms and legs and were otherwise completely disabled and disfigured.
The cherry on top was that this war bankrupted the United States, followed by the Biden administration’s shameful retreat from Afghanistan, leaving behind $85 billion in brand-new military aircraft and armaments as a gift to the CCP.
Congressman Weldon describes several wild interactions that he had during his time in office but the one which blew my hair back was his description of a meeting he had in his capacity as a member of Migratory Bird Commission, which oversees all the refuges for birds in North America.
Weldon describes this man, from a wealthy family in Maine, who was the world’s leading expert on falcons. He was also a devout Sikh and he was fully-attired in Sikh robes, with two beautiful falcons resting on his shoulders, worth $1 million each.
The gentleman told Weldon that he had devoted his life to protecting falcons and had worked with the UN on falcon treaties. In addition, he said that he’d worked for all the royal families in the Middle East, training them in the sport of falconry and that he wanted Weldon’s help to get him into Iran.
Weldon asked him, “Why do you want to go to Iran?”
He replied, “Because, that’s where bin Laden is…My falconers are seeing his birds flying in Iran. And the Iranians will accept me, because I’ve been there many times as a falconer. I’ll tag his birds, and I’ll take the US to exactly where he is.”
Weldon didn’t help the falconer but he heard that he kept going to the Iranian Consular Office of the UN after 9/11 and asking them, “Why are you harboring bin Laden?” Iran’s UN delegation, of course denied this.
The falconer was later able to get George Stephanopoulos to jokingly ask Iran’s then-President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, while he was at the UN, “Is it true that you’re harboring bin Laden in Iran?” which the Iranian President denied.
However, Weldon says, “Ahmadinejad went back to Iran and found out that that’s exactly where he was. That’s when Iran kicked him over to Pakistan, because the government of Iran did not place bin Laden in Iran. The IRG placed him in Iran. The deal was cut with Soleimani. And that’s why we killed Soleimani. Even Donald Trump, I don’t think, is aware of that, at all.”
In other words, Weldon is saying that Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani had brokered a deal behind the back of the Iranian government and the quid pro quo was that al-Qaeda would not attack Americans on US Soil, as long as bin Laden remained protected.
Weldon continues, “I wrote a book about this, my book called ‘Countdown to Terror’ – that book was published in 2005, the year before they took me out. It’s all about Iran. The book was endorsed by the former head of the CIA, Jim Woolsey, and by Al Gore’s CIA advisor. So it’s not some wacko story. And I say the people of Iran are not our enemy. It’s a manipulation by the Deep State – our Deep State and their Deep State – that’s causing the problem.”
What’s interesting for me, now is to go back and revisit the “falconer”, whose name is Alan Howell Parrot (a French surname, pronounced “puh-ROH”). On October 11, 2020 Alan went public on a Zoom call with Benghazi whistleblowers, Nicholas Noe and Charles Woods, which was aired at the 2020 Ampfest [American Priority] Conference in Miami to explain that the real reason for the “Iran Deal” was to pay for the continued cover-up of President Obama’s execution of SEAL Team Six.
VIDEO: “Benghazi Bombshell” – Pub. Oct 11, 2020 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
In 2020, Alan explained how the $152 Billion “trade deal” with Iran was actually a blackmail payment by the Obama-Biden administration to the Iranian Regime to cover up the deaths of SEAL Team 6 and to cover up the fact that Iran had custody of Osama bin Laden for decades and that it was Osama who was killed in Abbottabad, Pakistan in 2011, it was his double.
Moreover, this is why bin Laden’s body was given the very un-Islamic “burial at sea” – although, we learn that not even that was true. Alan says the body parts of the double were thrown out of a chopper over the Hindu Kush Mountains.
Alan claimed that the real bin Laden never lived in Abbottabad. Instead, the Rogue CIA had arranged to have him detained in Iran’s second-largest city, Mashhad during the previous ten years.
As a falconer, Alan came to know an Iranian warlord who supplied falcons for such hunting parties. This warlord told Alan that he’d met Bin Laden six times inside Iran between 2003 and 2008 and he described bin Laden as healthy and so relaxed that “he travels with only four bodyguards.”
Alan has been trying to alert the US Government about bin Laden’s whereabouts for over 15 years, sending them the GPS data for the falcons that Bin Laden was flying. “They could locate him to a one-square-mile area using those unique signals,” he said. He was never contacted for follow-up. He says he sent “Tapes, registered letters, everything to Clinton.”
In October of 2020, Alan said that he would release the documents and audio proving all of this and that he would personally brief the President, as well. Unfortunately, the 2020 election was stolen and this entire story went away!
VIDEO: “REAL Reason for “Iran Deal”: To Pay for the Cover-Up of Obama’s Execution of SEAL Team Six” – Pub. Octover 5, 2024 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
In a video, which I posted on October 13, 2020 but which has since been taken down, Benghazi whistleblower, Nicholas Noe, claimed that Alan had copious evidence that implicated the past three CIA Directors in the hiding of bin Laden in Iran all these years.
Michael Moore, publisher of the True Pundit independent news site also published an entire book about bin-Laden-in-Iran but his once-viral website has been inactive since 2021 and his book is nowhere to be found.
Noe said, “Hillary had taken over the covert weapons program [in Libya] and started selling her weapons through there…and they really didn’t need ’em, because we already provided the weapons…so that didn’t even need to happen…So, Hillary takes over Marc Turi‘s covert program…first off, she didn’t have authorization, second off, the State Department doesn’t sell weapons, third off, the reason that she did was because she wanted to sell Stinger missiles through Benghazi to shoot down SEAL Team 6.
“They shot down SEAL Team 6 using a Stinger missile that was sold to them by Hillary Clinton out of a weapons cache out of Qatar, that the CIA had put there. Big problems, here…“
Curt Weldon hints that a film based on his most recent book, ‘Awakening the Sleeping Giant: The Political Empowerment of America’s Heroes’ is coming soon and I am here for it!
Curt’s interview with Clayton Morris contains many more bombshells and it is much-watch and it is fully-transcribed, below.
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TRANSCRIPT
Clayton Morris: Did the United States intentionally hide and suppress information about the upcoming 9/11 attacks, information that would have saved thousands of lives?
Were the towers and buildings, like Building 7, brought down by a controlled demolition?
Did the government assist Osama bin Laden after 9/11, taking him out of Afghanistan and hiding him in Iran to protect Osama bin Laden?
Did that happen?
Former Congressman Curt Weldon wants answers. Weldon spent 20 years in Congress. He was vice chair on the Armed Services Committee.
He was pushed out of Congress by the Deep State. He knows the Deep State better than anyone. He blew the whistle on Operation Able Danger, which we’ll get into.
Now he’s on a mission to get President Trump to pay attention and reinvestigate the 9/11 attacks and more about the Deep State.
So joining us now, is former Congressman Curt Weldon, author of the book, ‘Awakening the Sleeping Giant’. Here it is on your screen.
And the former congressman joins us now. Congressman, great to see you. Welcome to the show.
Curt Weldon: Thank you. And thanks for your great work for the Country. You’re doing great work in telling the real story behind the scenes of what’s occurring in America and allowing the people to understand they can’t rely on mainstream media to get the facts.
And they can’t rely on Congress. I served there 20 years and get along very well with Democrats. The CIA and the Intelligence Agency distorts the information that Congress is presented with to make key decisions.
I saw it, I documented it, and I can prove it. So a couple of things I mentioned there at the beginning about Osama bin Laden, about the 9-11 attacks and the Deep State. Maybe we can walk back here and paint a picture for our audience of what you uncovered when you were in Congress and when you blew the whistle. Maybe we can start there, if that’s a good place to start.
Clayton Morris: What did you uncover about Able Danger? Maybe you can explain to our audience what that is. And when you saw the corruption and the lies that the United States government was putting out to the American people.
Curt Weldon: Sure. Well, first of all, I’m a firefighter. Before I got involved in politics, I was a Volunteer Firefighter, Fire Chief.
When I went to Congress, I organized all the firefighters in America by organizing the Congressional Fire Services Caucus, which is what the book’s about and the movie will be out this year called ‘Firefight’ about that process.
My co-chairs were all the top leaders in Congress. Gore, McCain, Biden, Hoyer, all the top leaders all joined with me because of my leadership with the fire service.
In that regard, I was at the Trade Center in ’93 as the guest of Howard Safe, former Fire Commissioner. I walked all through the garages – not as a politician, as a firefighter – looking at what happened and how we could prevent another attack.
I was with DEA and FBI and I was assigned to work with a young New York fire officer named Ray Downey, who had become one of my best friends. I worked with Ray. I wrote the legislation after that trip that created the Gilmore Commission, chaired by former Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore.
The Gilmore Commission made not five reports before 9/11 of what to do to prevent another terrorist attack. Largely, the government ignored them. And Jim Gilmore is a great guy.
So while that was going on, I’m pushing with Ray Downey to prepare for another attack. I’m the vice chairman of the Defense Committee, but I’m the overseer of all Military Intelligence. So I was the Subcommittee Chairman for $180 billion of research money for the Pentagon.
They were standing up what were called Information Dominance Centers – each of the services – to protect against cyber attacks in the ’90s.
I was going down to Fort Belvoir, where these Army’s Information Dominance Center was headquartered. And they were doing amazing work with new software that wasn’t being used by anyone else.
I was looking at what their work. I was funding them. They were briefing me. I was getting information about what they were doing to prevent another terrorist attack.
I did not bother getting read-into the program – I could have, because I top clearances – but I didn’t need to know that.
But I loved the process and in 1999, I convinced them to write a proposal that I went to the Deputy Secretary of Defense, John Henry, and said, we need this capability if we’re going to prevent another attack. And John said, “You’re right, Congressman.” Now, he was Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of Defense.
He said, “But you’ve got to convince the FBI and the CIA to allow us to use their raw data, because there are 33 classified systems funded by the Federal Government.”
On November the 4th of 1999, in my office, I had the Deputy Secretary of Defense, John Henry, the Deputy Director of the FBI, the Deputy Director of the CIA, and I handed them a proposal to create a Fusion Center of all 33 systems.
Henry said, “I’ll manage it.” I said, “I’ll fund it.” The FBI said, “We love it.” And the CIA said, “We’re not doing it. We don’t want it.”
Two years before 9/11, the CIA stopped the sharing of intelligence that was critical to understand what was happening around the world. Then –
Clayton Morris: Why? Why? Why did they do that? Why did they do that?
Curt Weldon: That’s the $64,000 question. Did they have plans that they did not want other agencies to know about? Or was it simply a dominance thing where they think they know it all? I don’t know that answer. That’s a part of why a commission needs to be put in place by the President.
But I can tell you this: I went around and gave speeches all over the country to intel groups, where I talked about the need for a fusion center. I briefed Bush when he came into office. They did nothing about it – and I’m a Republican.
9/11 happened. I’m in my office, and I get frantic calls from three of the staffers on this unit down at the Army’s Fort Belvoir. And they said, “We have to see you.”
These are all separate calls. I said, “We’re under attack right now!”
“Mr Chairman, we have to see you, right away.”
One by one, I met with them. Tony Shaffer, Lieutenant Colonel, Bronze Star recipient; Scott Philpott, Annapolis grad, Navy commander, Dr Eileen Preisser, career intelligence. I met with them all separately, and they all told me the same story.
They had been part of the Able Danger team established by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Hugh Shelton. That team was Top Secret. It was working out of Fort Belvoir.
I was funding them, giving them whatever they needed. They loved me. They would do whatever I wanted.
That’s the group I used to present the hammering that we should establish this fusion center capability for. And they told me the story, and they rolled out the charts, the charts that I’ll show you.
They identified Muhammad Atta, every al-Qaeda cell in the world by name and by face, one year before 9/11.
I have the charts. I have the charts. All the names and the faces.
They identified the five key cells. One was in Nairobi, Kenya. One was in all the places we had attacks, and one was in New York City with Muhammad Atta.
One year before 9/11, the Able Danger team identified Muhammad Atta and several of the other terrorists in New York. They tried to transfer that information to the Justice Department three times. We had the names of the people that they contacted in Justice – and they were blocked.
Why were they blocked? That’s a good question.
I will tell you right now, the 9/11 Commission is a cover-up, 100% guarantee you.
Zelikow was the Commission Director. He led the cover-up, and he was appointed by the Republicans. Even though he endorsed Kamala Harris in October publicly.
The Democrats put Jamie Gorelick on the Commission. She was the attorney that Clinton appointed in the ’90s that wrote the “Firewall” memo that said you could not transfer military intelligence to civilian law enforcement.
The two of them controlled the content of the Commission. When Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaffer, the Bronze Star recipient member of the Able Danger team, came and told me they’d identified the information about pre-9/11 intelligence, Scott Philpott told me the same thing, Eileen Preisser said the same thing, Erik Klinesmith the same thing. Our military unit Able Danger did the job – and I wrote the manuscript.
My lawyers said, “If you publish it” – in 2006, when I ended my career – they said to me, “They’ll kill you.” What they had done to my family to get me out, I said, “I’m not going to risk that.”
They ruined my daughter’s life, and what they did led to my son’s death.
Now I’m a patriot, but I’m not stupid. So I waited, and now I’m talking, and they’re not going to shut me up, unless they kill me. If they kill me, the story’s already out, now, and I’m going to tell more of it on shows like yours, because you want the truth, and you want to hear what the mainstream media will not touch.
Clayton Morris: So Able Danger, we had all of it. We had all of the details. After you learned, on that day, did you know about able danger before those phone calls with Tony Shaffer and others?
Curt Weldon: As the Chairman of the Oversight Committee for all military research funding, I was funding their programs.
That meant I had oversight, and they would come to me for funding, and I would support them. I was intrigued by what they were doing, because I had been at the Trade Center in ’93, where the firefighters told me, “We need this capability, Ray Downing. Ray Downing was the chief of all rescue at 9/11.
He was vaporized. I brought his widow and five kids down to my district one month after 9/11 to honor Ray as an American hero. Ray Downing should not have died. 343 firefighters should not have died.
That’s why I wear this jacket when I go on TV. This jacket was given to me by Ray Downing; Fire Department of New York with my name on it. I don’t wear it because I’m trying to make some show. Ray Downing gave me this! and I’m not going to stop this battle until I live up to what Ray Downing did for this country!
People like Ray, they did their job. People like Battalion Chief Orio, who went to the 78th floor of the tower, went up 40 floors in an elevator, climbed up 38 more floors, got off on the floor of impact. You can hear his voice.
I’ll give you the tape. You can hear his voice over New York Fire Department communication. He says, “Well, my unit has reached the 78th floor. There’s two fires here, and we can control them.” One minute later, the whole tower collapses.
Now I’m a firefighter. I was a fire chief. That’s not reality. That’s not reality! And it’s about time we paid attention to the men and women who lost their lives in this situation!
There are people behind-the-scenes who know what occurred here, both on the intelligence side, on the building side, on all the run-up to this. We owe it to the American People. We owe it to those firefighters and those families. I worked very closely with the 9/11 families. We owe it to them.
Donald Trump made the point, and now he’s got to follow through. We need a Presidential Bommission, not some bullsh*t commission of bureaucrats, not some commission of staffers: a Presidential Commission of experts, fire experts, building experts. Let them examine the intelligence, and I’ll sit with them and give them everything I have.
Clayton Morris: So let’s talk about the buildings, because I think we all agree, you and I both agree, I’ve read the 9/11 Commission Report. It’s a total cover-up. It’s like reading a book of fiction.
So a couple of things to unpack there; specifically the buildings, and what I talked about in the intro: Do you believe that, based on the evidence, that these buildings were brought down intentionally, not by aircraft, but by controlled demolition, including Building 7?
Curt Weldon: Well, I was at the Trade Center. I got a call from the New York firefighters and the Fire Commissioner when 9/11 happened to get up there, because they needed help, and I had been there at ’93.
So I went up on the first Amtrak train, and when they picked me up at the station in New York and drove me down, we couldn’t get down to Ground Zero. We had to walk. I went down to Ground Zero, and I stayed with the Fire Department at Ground Zero.
So I was there on the scene, not as a politician, as a firefighter with the New York Fire Department, as I was in ’93. And there’s no way that those towers that I had been to as a citizen – that what was left there was the remnants of those towers. There’s just no way!
I mean, I saw, I was there. The Building 7, there’s no way that building came down without being hit by a plane.
How that happened? I mean, I saw the reports I have that heard the statements. I’ve heard the language of the firefighters who were in the buildings hearing explosions. You don’t hear explosions in buildings when there’s a fire going on.
Controlled demolition!
Clayton Morris: Right. And there was my old station, Fox News. Of course, these videos have now been suppressed, but thanks to X, they’ve been resurfaced, over the past few years.
But you had, one of my colleagues was standing there as a Fox News reporter, talking about speaking with the firefighters and talking about the explosions that were happening on the ground. These are not fantasies.
Curt Weldon: I’m very close to the firefighters. In fact, I went up last July and spent two hours with Chief John Esposito in New York. He’s a good friend of mine, great guy. And I gave him the unpublished manuscript for ‘Able Danger’, and I signed it in honor of Ray Downing.
I said, John, you’re getting the first draft manuscript. I haven’t printed it yet, but I want this for the New York Fire Department so that you have the historical record of what happened that could have prevented the loss of those 343 firefighters and all those others who died, as a result of 9/11. And I did that because of my respect.
And you lost reporters, all those innocent people who died there, and we just kind of cavalierly let it go by. It’s outrageous!
And let me give you one more point that you need to understand about the intelligence: After 9/11, Tony Shaffer, who had been a part of Able Danger, went back to his unit deployed in Afghanistan as spies. That was his job in the Army. So Zelikow and the 9/11 Commission staff went through Kabul, to ask if anyone had heard anything about 9/11, so the 9/11 Commission could look at it.
So, Tony got word that he should meet with them. So in Kabul, Tony Shaffer met Zelikow. They traded business cards, and ZeliKow said to him, “We need to meet when you get back in the States.”
When Tony came back to the US, his office was locked. All of his records were sealed. They took away a Security Clearance.
They tried to destroy his career. I defended him. I did a one-hour Special Order on the House floor that you can Google, it’s public, where I said, “This is worse than Watergate.”
What they’re doing to Tony Shaffer for telling the truth. Tony then goes into the Reserves, not in the active duty. He decides to write his book called ‘Dark Heart’ his memoirs as a spy.
So, as is customary and protocol, he asks his commanding officer to review the book. So the commanding officer reviews the book. He gives it an “OK”.
Tony’s publisher publishes the ‘Dark Heart’. And then the Deep State finds out. They issue a Cease and Desist order: “Stop printing the book”.
It’s too late. So our Government, using Taxpayer Money, bought all 10,000 First Edition copies and destroyed them. Then, under oath, then they gave Tony the right to publish a redacted version.
So, I had Tony on a little podcast I do, last October at 9/11, the anniversary. I said, “Tony, you have the redacted version and the original version? What was the difference? What was so sensitive that our government wanted you to redact the book? What were they trying to prevent you from telling? Was it some State Secret?”
He said, “No, Congressman. They didn’t want Zelikow’s name mentioned in my book.”
Now, Zelikow’s name, as the Staff Director of the 9/11 Commission, is not a State Secret! And for any government agency to want to redact Zelikow’s name is a blatant cover-up!
That’s what they did. Now, it gets worse –
Clayton Morris: OK, I’ll let you go. I have a lot of questions.
Curt Weldon: You got to buy this book. You got to buy this book. New York Times Bestseller. All ‘Horse Soldiers’
Clayton Morris: I’ve read it.
Curt Weldon: I don’t know the person it’s about, but I’m going to tell you about it. New York Times Bestseller. They made a movie about it. The book’s about our general in charge of Special Forces that ride horses. That was his job.
We have like 9,000 soldiers that are Special Forces, that ride horses in remote areas. So his name is Keith Lambert. So he was deployed overseas when 9/11 happened.
So the writer on page 27 of the book said, “General, what were your thoughts when 9/11 happened?”
And General Lambert says this: “Within seconds, I knew who had done the attack. And I knew it involved a man named Atta, because I had been briefed on a Top Secret Army Intelligence program. That’s it. It’s in the book. It’s not in the 9/11 Commission Report.
Clayton Morris: A top secret army program?
Curt Weldon: Yes, that’s Able Danger.
Clayton Morris: You mean Able Danger? Able Danger. So they knew this. Where do you come down on – because we’ve interviewed a number of whistleblowers and individuals tied to this who believe that those aircraft were not controlled by these amateur pilots, at all. They couldn’t have done the maneuvers that they did.
And I guess this is, of course, why we need an investigation, but that they were remotely-controlled. Does that comport with anything that makes, when the CIA wouldn’t be involved in your fusion project, the CIA didn’t want to be involved. Do you believe the CIA was covering-up an operation, in order to thrust us into these “Forever Wars” and the Patriot Act and everything else?
Curt Weldon: One of the pilots in one of the planes that was taken over was from my district, Michael Horrocks. He went to Westchester, the same university I went to.
When he was killed in the attack, I met his widow and his kids, and I actually funded a playground. I raised the money at their elementary school, because Michael died in the World Trade Center. It was a personal thing for me. But I’m going to tell you what happened. And this happened with America.
We were so consumed by the spin put out by the Deep State, and they control the spin. You know that. I know that.
They make the spin. The spin was about “getting Al-Qaeda, focusing on the war, sending the troops over, getting Bin Laden.”
We forgot about what about the investigation and what really happened here?
Only when I was forced by my firefighter friends to look at the film, one is called Bravo 7, where you see Building 7 come down on its own. There’s no fire there. It just collapsed!
Now, Donald Trump has stated that publicly, as a building person. He knew that. What I’m saying to you is, I’m not going to play into their hands, where they can label me some kind of “wacko conspiracy theorist”.
That’s what they want. And they’re the conspiracy theorists. They devise the theory, the conspiracy.
We need to convene a Top Secret panel of experts by the President, to bring out the investigation.
He’s neutralized the people that were involved in overseeing it, at this time. Those 51 people were all in power during this time.
Clayton Morris: The 51 people who then put their names on the Hunter Biden laptop story as being a “Russian [disinformation]”.
Curt Weldon: The same people that put me out of office, the same people!
Now, we have an opportunity. We’re not going to have it, again. Now, two of my friends that worked for the CIA died mysteriously. One of them was threatened by a man who was one of the three people under consideration to head the CIA under Obama.
My friend from Florida, who worked for the CIA his whole career was called by this man – and I have all the details – and he was said and he said to him, “Why are you helping Curt Weldon?” And my friend from the CIA said, “Because, Curt Weldon’s a hero.” And the man slammed the phone down.
I’m telling you right now, now’s the time for America to stand together as Donald – and I don’t know Donald Trump – I never met the man. But I know what he’s doing. And he’s the only one, only one that has the guts, determination, the willpower and doesn’t need the money.
And look, I grew up with Joe Biden. We grew up in neighboring towns. He drove three hours to come to my son’s funeral as Vice President and stood in line for an hour. I worked with Joe all during my time in Congress. My son that died was actually Biden’s classmate at Archmere Academy.
But there’s an inherent problem. My fear right now, this whole thing, that just occurred with Ukraine, Zelenskyy didn’t go in there and act that way on his own. No, that didn’t happen on his own.
He was totally briefed, in advance of that meeting. Anyone who didn’t see that doesn’t understand what’s going on in the world.
Clayton Morris: Victoria Nuland, Susan Rice?
Curt Weldon: Absolutely. Oh, it’s more than that. It’s an absolute, there’s a Cabal of people there that think they have better logic, better intelligence, and they can do what they want and get away with it.
Well, now that Trump’s in power, if it’s the last thing I do, I’m telling the story. And believe me, there are stories that I know about – not just the 9/11, the whole Russia thing.
No one had more delegations in Russia than I did. I was a co-chairman of two McConnell’s and I was Co-Chair of the Rada Congress in Ukraine, with Marcy Kaptur.
All of us got along, back in the ’90s. The Duma, the Rada, the Congress, we met. This war was contrived by the US – not by the US People – by the US
Clayton Morris: – in Ukraine – of course.
Curt Weldon: Now, millions of people are suffering. It’s the same thing with Gaddafi. I led the first delegation to meet Gaddafi. I took Biden on my second trip to Libya to meet Gaddafi. I spoke to the entire country there.
When the war started, Gaddafi had his son, who was in the US, reach out to two people, one of Bush’s former staffers and one of Biden’s former staffers, Brian Attinger and Steve Payne, and they contacted me.
They said, “Gaddafi wants you to come to Libya.” I said, “I’m not in Congress anymore.” [He replied] “He trusts you,” because I never asked Gaddafi for anything.
So I told my staffer there, he used to work for me, I said, “I’m going to go to Libya. I don’t want any money for it. I’m going to see what he wants.” I took Biden’s staffer with me. I took Bush’s staffer with me. And I took a film crew from ABC New York, Larry Mendte.
Larry Mendte is ABC1, because I know the CIA would try to set me up. We flew into Tunis. We went down through [Tripoli] by car into the capital, during the war, Tripoli. The hotel we stayed in had been bombed-out.
I hand-carried the letter back from Gaddafi offering to step down. The letter was addressed to Hillary Clinton and Obama. He offered to step down!
We didn’t want him to step down. We wanted him dead! That’s the US. That’s what happens behind the scenes. This maniac activity has got to stop!
Clayton Morris: So when you’ve uncovered Able Danger and you found out you got those phone calls on 9/11, you wanted to come forward with this information.
Who threatened you? Who threatened your life? And you had the charts to show. They had mapped this all out. They knew exactly who was involved. Who threatened your life? Was it the CIA?
Curt Weldon: In 2000, many members asked me to run for Chairman of the [Armed Services] Committee. But back then, because I was very aggressive, but we had a seniority system, where you move your way up. And I was like fifth in line to be Chairman.
So I went to Tom DeLay and I said, “Do you want me to try to jump over them?” He said, “Well, we’re not sure about that.”
I got letters endorsing me from 180 generals and admirals. I have them all. One of those letters was from Don Rumsfeld. So Don Rumsfeld, in 2000 endorsed me to run for Chairman of the Armed Services Committee.
But when I came out against 9/11, when I came out with the story and I said to the Pentagon and Don Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, “I want the Able Danger team to testify before Congress,” he said, “No way.”
So I’m a very aggressive person, as you can tell. I got a letter signed by 250 members of Congress. 250 members of Congress. I can show you the letter. Democrats, Republicans all supported me, demanding that we let the Able Danger team testify.
Rumsfeld refused – even though he had supported me for Chairman of the Committee two years earlier – did not want the Able Danger team to testify in an opening hearing. I testified.
Clayton Morris: Why? Why, why, why? Because it was all planned?
Curt Weldon: Well, yeah, there’s information there. I don’t know what the Big Picture is. I know what I know. And I know the cover-up that I saw. And I know what I can verify. I have the largest archives in House history.
I have 100 hours of digitized interviews with agency people, with Democrat and Republican members. And I’m about ready to release all of that, in the right form.
This country has been held hostage, been held hostage by people who think they know more than our People do.
You know, 200 years ago, our Patriots fought in the streets. Today, the fight’s not in the streets. It’s the fight in our minds to stand up against this oppression, where many of these Deep State people are making tons of money. It’s about money. It’s about power. And that’s got to stop.
And I can tell those stories. And I will tell those stories.
Clayton Morris: I want to talk about Osama bin Laden. It’s a piece we haven’t talked about yet, but I mentioned it at the top. The cover-up, moving him to a safe haven. Can you walk through.
For most Americans, we’ve heard the story about Bill Clinton had the opportunity to take-out Osama bin Laden years ahead of time and didn’t.
But to hear that we, after 9/11, instead of going after to kill him, shielded him, put him in a safe haven in Iran; set him up with cushy living.
That must be shocking to many Americans and I’m sure, the 9/11 families, as well.
Curt Weldon: It’s disgusting. It’s outrageous and in my opinion, the people that did it are Traitors and deserve to be held for Traitorous Acts.
I got to the point, as the Vice Chairman of the Defense Committee, where I took my job seriously, but I could not count on the intelligence provided by the Agency.
It was spun politically for an agenda that they had, supporting either the Clinton administration or the Bush administration.
So what I did, around the end of the ’90s, started with the investigation of China when I was on the Cox Commission. There’s a group in Washington called the “Cockroaches”. It’s a lucid group of people in intelligence who meet for drinks and go to dinner once a month.
And my staff was involved with them, primarily all ex-military people. And I spoke to them a couple of times. I trusted them, they trusted me.
So I formed a team of about 20, 25 employees of the agencies, DIA, NSA, CIA, FBI. I met with them in the Capitol Members Dining Room for breakfast, maybe once a week, once every two weeks. And they would feed me raw data that I could then go and use in my job as Vice Chairman of the Defense Committee.
So after 9/11, and by the way, I was concerned when George Bush decided to go into Afghanistan, I was concerned about our troops. So you know what I did?
Without the support of our government, I arranged with two other members, and one of my intel friends, Al Santoli, who was a Vietnam Vet, we went over to Rome to meet in a private home of the King of Afghanistan, Zahir Shah, to convince him to go back to Afghanistan and convene a Loya Jirga of all the tribal leaders, so they would accept Americans. I didn’t want our American troops hurt, like the Russians had been hurt by the tribal groups in Afghanistan.
I have photographs of these meetings with Zahir Shah. Zahir Shah went back to Kabul and did exactly what I asked. I did that. Not for the CIA, I did it for our troops.
So then, I’m getting raw data that Bin Laden’s been sighted in a town called Ladiz. I had no idea what Ladiz is.
So I walk up the street one afternoon after his votes to a bookstore on Pennsylvania Avenue. I bought a map and I came back to my office, and I found Ladiz. It’s about 10 kilometers inside the border of Pakistan in an area of Iran called Baluchestan.
I said, “What the Hell? He’s in Iran?”
So, I go to one of my classified briefings for the committee, 60 members of the committee. I’m the Acting Chairman, and I ask the question, “I have information that Bin Laden’s been sighted in Ladiz. What’s your response?”
This is the response:
“Mr Chairman, we’ve heard similar reports. We can neither confirm or deny them. Three months later, my intel guys came to me and said, “We have information that Bin Laden’s being treated at a military hospital outside of Tehran.”
I go back to the briefing, and I asked the same question of the briefers; Intel, and the response was the same: “Mr Chairman, we’ve heard similar reports. We can neither confirm or deny them.”
That’s two. Then I get –
Clayton Morris: And this is right around, this is like December, January after 9/11?
Curt Weldon: – it’s within six months after 9/11. Then, I get the most distinguished Democrat member of the House on defense issues, Jack Murtha from Pennsylvania, who sends Ron Klink.
Now, Ron Klink is still alive. And Ron will not dispute what I’m saying. He’s still alive. Ron Klink was a reporter for KDKA in Pittsburgh. So Ron went to Murtha and said, “I’ve got information about Iran. What do you think I should do, Jack? And Jack said, go see Curt.”
So Democrat, Ron Klink came to my office and brought with him a NOC [Non-Official Cover CIA operative]. Do you know what a NOC is? It’s an employee of the CIA that gets paid, but they’ll never admit they work for them.
And they have them all over the place. So this guy was a NOC for the Agency. He was in the Midwest.
So Ron has me meet this guy, after he told me that the guy had information that Congress should know about, because it involves Iran. I said, “OK, I’ll listen, because I did all the security work. I’ve been to 104 countries, all the problems. I’ll listen.”
The guy comes into my office. He doesn’t know me. He says, “Congressman, well, Mr Chairman,” he said, “I want you to help me get back into Iran.”
I said, “Why do you want to go to Iran?” He said, “I work there for the Agency,” he said, “And I have good friends there,” he said, that’s where Bin Laden is.”
I said, “Well, why would you say that? He said, “My friends have told me that.” I said, “Why do you want to go there?” He said, “Well, I’ll leave my credentials.”
He said, “Here’s a $25 million reward for the arrest and capture of Bin Laden. And I’ll bring him back, dead or alive.” That was right after 9/11. That’s Ron Klink, Democrat.
Then, separately from all this, I get a request from the Interior Department. They want to bring their top bird expert in to meet me. Now, I was the Republican on the Migratory Bird Commission. The Migratory Bird Commission oversees all the refuges for birds in North America. There are two members of the House, two members of the Senate, and three cabinet members. John Dingell was a Democrat in the House. I was a Republican. So I figured this guy would talk about birds.
So the Interior Department bird man brings in a US Citizen from Maine, who was the world’s expert on falcons. He’s a Sikh. So he’s got a Sikh hat on, a Sikh gown, but he’s an American citizen, very wealthy, family. And he brings two falcons on his shoulders. These are million-dollar birds with the blinders on, to my office. I said, “Boy, they’re beautiful birds. How can I help you? Is there something with the birds I should know about?”
He said, “Congressman, well, I spent my whole life protecting falcons, working with the UN on falcon treaties,” he said, “I worked in all the training camps for all the royal families in the Middle East. I trained their children on the sport of falconry, because that’s their big sport. You know that, right?”
I said, “Yeah, I know that,” I said, “Well, what do you want me to do?”
He said, “I want you to help me get into Iran.” I said, “Why do you want to go to Iran?”
He said, “Because that’s where bin Laden is.”
I said, “Why would you tell me bin Laden’s in Iran?”
Clayton Morris: And why would you want to go there?
Curt Weldon: And he says, “My falconers are seeing his birds flying in Iran. And the Iranians will accept me, because I’ve been there many times as a falconer. I’ll tag his birds, and I’ll take the US to exactly where he is.”
That’s four silver gold bullets saying the same thing. Over the course of my career, in Congress and out, I have 10 silver bullets that came to me that said that, “Bin Laden was placed in Iran, in Baluchestan, and allowed to roam there. And the quid pro quo was that al-Qaeda would not attack us on our soil.”
The deal was not cut with the Iranian government. The falconer that I just mentioned, kept going to the Iranian Consular Office of the UN and asking them, “Why are you harboring bin Laden?” This is right after 9/11. And obviously, the Iranian Consular Office of the UN said, “You’re crazy, man, we would never do that!”
He got George Stephanopoulos. You know who that name is? George used to be the lackey on the House floor for Dick Ephardt. I know him well. I knew him well back then.
Clayton Morris: And former Clinton Communications Director.
Curt Weldon: He worked on the House floor, running errands for Dick Ephardt, when I knew him. So he got Stephanopoulos to ask the question of Ahmadinejad when Ahmadinejad was at the UN, “Is it true that you’re harboring bin Laden in Iran?” kind of laughingly, Stephanopoulos said. Ahmadinejad said, “No way!”
Ahmadinejad went back to Iran and found out that that’s exactly where he was. That’s when Iran kicked him over to Pakistan, because the government of Iran did not place bin Laden in Iran. The IRG placed him in Iran.
The deal was cut with Soleimani. And that’s why we killed Soleimani. Even Donald Trump, I don’t think, is aware of that, at all.
Soleimani was the head of the IRG. The point that I mentioned to you earlier is, when Iran was our ally and friend, we were very close. And the Iranian people – I wrote a book about this, my book called ‘Countdown to Terror’ – that book was published in 2005, the year before they took me out. It’s all about Iran. The book was endorsed by the former head of the CIA, Jim Woolsey, and by Al Gore, CIA advisor.
So it’s not some wacko story. And I say the people of Iran are not our enemy. It’s a manipulation by the Deep State – our Deep State and their Deep State – that’s causing the problem.
That was in 2005. A year later, they took me out, so I couldn’t become Chairman. Our Deep State was working with their Deep State. When the radical mullahs took over Iran, they didn’t change their intelligence agency. Those people stayed in power! They were trained by the US!
Clayton Morris: And they’re still friends with the United States. So what do you make now of this sort of push to the drumbeats of war to go – that Israel, of course, wants us – they had us take out Saddam Hussein. Israel absolutely loved for us to take out Gaddafi. The third in that triangle, of course, is for us to take out Iran.
Do you think the United States will go to war with Iran?
Curt Weldon: I hope not. My book in 2005, called ‘Countdown to Terror’ was all about that. And I made the point that we should not be enemies of Iran.
In fact – and this is another whole series of topics I can talk to you about – and I had a chance to see the Big Picture. I was very concerned about Russia’s helping Iran with their nuclear program.
Their main reactor is called the Bushehr Reactor. And as a student of Russia and what they were doing, I was offended that Russia’s Minister of Atomic Energy was, in fact, supplying nuclear fuel to Iran.
I took two current senators, Lindsey Graham and Roger Wicker with me to Russia. I have the picture of us together with the Russian nuclear minister. And I pressed him to stop aiding Iran’s program. He said, “Well, we’re only doing a little bit. We’re not doing a lot of help.”
I kept pushing the issue. And finally, before he passed away – he just passed away in December – the leading nuclear person in Russia was named Dr Evgeny Velikov. He was head of Kurchatov Institute, their Number One nuclear institute.
He came to my office under Bush, Bush Jr. And he said, he called me “Coort.” He said, “We know you’re upset over the Iran nuclear.”
I said, “Absolutely, Evgeny, you can’t do this. There’s going to be a problem for you and us down the road.”
He said, “I understand.” He said, “So I talked to Putin and Putin has authorized me to offer a bilateral to the US, 50-50. The bilateral will oversee any fissile material going to Iran.”
We turned them down. We!
Clayton Morris: Shocking, shocking! How many times has Putin tried to become friends? Will you allow me to join NATO? Will you allow, let’s work together on this. We keep over and over and over again, turning him down so that we can go to war with him.
Curt Weldon: Look, I’m no “friend”. The CIA tried to make me out to be a “friend” of – they actually tried to say that I was a “lobbyist for Russia”! They tried to spin that.
But I’m not that. I mean, they’re not going to outsmart me. I mean, they’re going to have to go a long way. I’m a common firefighter who was youngest of nine kids. I know, I know the bastards that work for that Agency, you know.
And I know where they made their money in Russia. I know Hillary Clinton’s deal on nuclear material. I know Bill Clinton’s $500,000 from the Mayor of Moscow’s wife. I know all those hidden things. I know one of our former ambassadors who made millions on a story I’m going to tell you, now.
Because, when Putin went into office, he reached out to Bush. And Bush made the famous speech. I didn’t say this. You can say it: Bush said on national TV, “I looked in his eyes, I saw his inner soul, and I realized this is a man I could trust.” That’s what George W Bush said!
I took that to mean he knows more than I do. Let’s rally behind him and see if we can work together. I’m a Ronald Reagan Republican, Peace through Strength. But in the end, Ronald Reagan said, “We should work with Russia and the Russian people.”
So I organized. I went to the State Department. I said: give me a list of all the nonprofits that work on issues with the Russian people and the American people.
They said they wouldn’t have such a list. So I pulled together 45 of the top experts in Washington that do things like healthcare, energy, environment. They published for me a document 45 pages long with 108 recommendations.
Before Bush and Putin met, I said I want to give this document to them to show them that we in the Congress and in their parliament, the Duma, are ready to work with them to create this new relationship.
Now, who signed that document with me? I went to the Senate. I had one day to get signatures before they met. I had a target of three senators. They all signed it. Carl Levin, Democrat Chairman of Armed Services; Dick Lugar, top Republican on foreign policy and Joe Biden, Chairman of Foreign Affairs.
I can show you the letter. Signed, with me on the front cover, those four signatures. On the inside, 200 members of Congress. Bernie Sanders signed the letter! Mike Pence signed the letter! Dick Armey signed the letter! Jack Murtha signed the letter!
On the Left and the Right, everybody in the Congress said, “It’s time. We need to work together!” The Congress was prepared.
The problem was the people that were controlling Bush, they didn’t want that. They didn’t want that. They didn’t want a relationship where Russia and America work together.
And then, we pushed it into this current debacle where innocent people are being killed. And look, I’ve been to Ukraine 25 times. I mean, I love the Ukrainian people. They’re great people. And we’ve destroyed that country.
People don’t want to talk about that! This is not one man doing that. It’s what we did collectively. Who made Ukraine disarm? They had nuclear weapons. Who made them disarm the nuclear weapons after the Soviet Union broke up? We did. America demanded, you give up your weapons to Ukraine. We made them become vulnerable.
And when we brought Yushchenko to Philadelphia, I was up on the stage with him. He was a good friend of mine. His wife was from Chicago.
The Orange Revolution, we did not support Yushchenko in helping to prevent additional – look, every country’s out to hurt their neighbors or tweak them, because some of the land of Ukraine on the border was filled with Russian people. And that was always going to be a contentious area. But it didn’t have to lead to war!
It wasn’t a war, under Reagan. Reagan settled that. It became a confrontation when we tried to play games. Ronald Reagan made the statement through himself and through his foreign policy Secretary of State, James Baker. He said, “We will not move NATO up to the border of Russia.” That’s what he said.
And we didn’t do that.
Clayton Morris: So did Bill Clinton, he said the same thing!
Curt Weldon: Most of these actions we caused ourselves.
Clayton Morris: We just got some breaking news. I’d love to get your thoughts on this. So a couple of things from Zelenskyy on the Ukrainian side, just posted that “None of us wants an endless war,” he said. “Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand by ready to work.”
So he says this, that also came just as we learned from the Ukrainian parliament that they were basically ready to come to the table, separate from Zelenskyy, kind of going around his back on this.
And then President Trump just a few moments ago, in response to Trump’s decision to pause military aid to Ukraine, European Union has unveiled the “Rearm Europe Initiative”, an $800 billion defense investment plan designed to strengthen Europe’s military capabilities and reduce reliance on US security assistance.
So it seems like Europe is Hell-bent on going to war with Russia, because the United States is stepping back.
Curt Weldon: Well, Europe has consistently failed to meet their NATO requirements, which is what Trump went after them for, in his First Term and said, “Look, if you’re going to be a part of NATO, we’re not going to carry the load ourselves. You pay your fair share.”
So I’ll believe that when I see it. Some of the NATO countries did step up, but most of them have not. Europe has always relied on the US, and I want us to maintain a strong NATO. I can tell you, I formed the Rada-Congress relationship in Congress. I was the co-chairman with Marcy Kaptur, who’s still in the Congress. She’s the oldest woman in the Congress. She was my co-chair.
We took delegations to meet with the Ukraine Rada 25 times, and we hosted them in Washington. I did the same thing with the Russian Duma, 25, 30 times.
We all got along! There was no battle! There was no contention. There was no undermining! NATO was not an issue! We all knew that Ukraine was not going to become a part of NATO. But we also knew that Russia had to respect Ukraine’s rights!
All of this was contrived!
I can show you photographs of us all meeting in Washington together, the Rada, the Congress, and the Duma all together.
Well, this is all contrived! We’ve got to stop this nonsense from occurring, because none of these people doing this are elected. They’re not elected by the people. You don’t even know who they are!
I’m not going to let this sit, because they end up killing. When I realized that bin Laden was allowed the roam in Iran – and by the way, I can bring you Ahmadinejad right now, because I have people talking to him – and he will confirm what I just told you. I never met him before, but he will confirm this, now.
When I realized that we sent all those kids to Afghanistan, a few people knowing he wasn’t there, and 2,500 American heroes came home in body bags, and thousands more with their arms and legs blown off, or no sight, it makes me sick to my stomach!
You can’t refer to this as “An acceptable consensus.”
Clayton Morris: We knew that he wasn’t there! The whole purpose that Donald Rumsfeld put before the American people was going after bin Laden in Afghanistan – but they knew that he wasn’t there! And further, not only did they know that he wasn’t there, they facilitated his hospital treatment and the removal of bin Laden into Iran!
Curt Weldon: And I had two royal families in the Middle East, who I work with very closely, confirm that to me, of those 10 silver bullets, two of them were royal family members from two different royal families.
And the bin Laden Task Force Director from the CIA, who saw information that he had never been given when he was doing that job, Michael Scheuer, called my office. I mean, called my home. They wanted to do a film about me after I left.
I said, “I’m not getting involved anymore after what they did to my family. I’m not getting involved, because there’s nobody there to support me on the Government side. I’m not going to get support out of Bush Jr. He’s not in control.
And Obama is certainly not going to support me, because the people – Obama wasn’t in control of the government. I mean, we’re not stupid. And neither was Biden!”
And I like Biden. I mean, I’m friends with Biden. Up until he had his problems, I did a lot of things with him and know him very well. He traveled with me. He went to Libya with me. He went to Iraq with me.
I have pictures of him and I together. He came to my son’s funeral and stood in line for an hour.
But people have got to wake up. They’ve got to stop thinking about this rhetoric spewed out as part of an intelligence machine. They’re the ones spinning the conspiracy. It’s not people like you giving the truth.
It’s our government Agency, who’s made up master’s and doctorate degrees, but they’re the ones doing all the conspiracy work and making you think you’re crazy. Or not you, but other people think they’re crazy. They’re not crazy! All we want is the truth. And that’s what I want.
Clayton Morris: Can I ask you – I’ll get you out of here in a minute, Congressman – you’ve been so gracious with your time.
Once we had Rob O’Neill and the team that went into Pakistan, and President Obama comes out on national television and says, “We got him, we got Obama, we got Osama bin Laden.”
What were you thinking at that moment? Why then? Why was it used then? They could have gotten him right after 9/11. They could have gotten him before 9/11. So why at that moment did that happen?
Curt Weldon: We could have gotten him in the base camps in the Middle East, which was in the Clinton administration. And that’s been public knowledge.
I assume that somebody decided we had to have closure and Obama needed some “big win” in the foreign policy arena. So Obama, this is going to be your “big foreign policy win”. I don’t know why else they did that.
Unless I have firsthand information that I can verify, I tend to be skeptical about anything I hear. That’s why in the end, as the Vice Chairman of the Defense Committee, at the same time I was Vice Chairman of Homeland Security, both committees, members from both parties totally respected me. All the Democrats, all of them supported me. All my trips were all bipartisan.
I could not trust the briefings I was getting from my own intelligence agency. I would get more information from reporters who had stories leaked to them, and they would come to me and say, “Mr Chairman, we have anonymous sources telling us this.”
Those anonymous sources were always from the Agency. They played the game. Then they blame everyone else for doing what they do.
Until America wakes up to that, it’s not going to stop.
Clayton Morris: What do you want President Trump to do, Congressman?
Curt Weldon: First of all, I did a TV show in May. I said, his first priority is he’s got his own personal safety. I predicted they were going to try to take him out. That was a month before the shooting in Pennsylvania. And then we saw a second attack.
Look, there’s this cadre of people that he now has taken on. When he took away the Security Clearances of 51 people, we don’t see this publicly, but I’ll tell you, that’s a sweltering, bubbling menace, because they have contacts all over the world. That concerns me.
Clayton Morris: Trump’s safety concerns you, meaning that these 51 Swamp Rats, these scumbags, have contacts all over the world, that they could reach out to and say, “e need you to do something to President Trump.”
Curt Weldon: Absolutely. They have relationships they’ve established for decades.
And I’m sure they’re saying, “Trump’s not going to last long. He won’t be in maybe one term, at the most.” Something will happen to him. That’s my first concern.
The second concern is the people around Trump – who are all good people – I don’t have any problems with any of them. They don’t know what they don’t know. When I say, “They don’t know what they don’t know,” I was there for 30 years, 20 years in Congress, and I’ve been out for a little over 10 years.
And I’m not saying I’m an expert, but I have common sense. And I pushed the envelope repeatedly. And I wasn’t some radical. Let me say this to you: I support a strong intelligence service for our country. I think that’s important. When I first went to Congress, I became very good friends with Jim Woolsey.
Jim Woolsey endorsed this book. Now, he had left the Agency. On his own, he publicly wrote a three-page letter endorsing my book. And if you see the title of my book, it takes on the CIA.
The other person who endorsed my book was Jack Caravelli. He was Gore’s CIA advisor and a good guy. He endorsed this book.
When George Tenet went into office, George Tenet had a staff call my office and said, “The Director wants to host Congressman Weldon for breakfast. That never happens in Congress, where the Director of the Agency would call you down.
So I go down to the CIA Headquarters, my first time there. I took my staffer there who had worked for the CIA for 10 years. He said, “Congressman, I can’t believe that the Director is calling you for breakfast!”
I went to Tenet’s office on the top floor. He had a long table there. All of his direct reports were sitting around the table.
He sat me up front with him. And he said, “Congressman, this Agency respects your work and respects the work you’ve been doing against the Soviet Union and Russia. We appreciate it. And I want you to know, this group of people will give you whatever you want to help you. And if you don’t get what you want, you come to me.”
Now, that was the Director of the CIA.
Porter Goss was a former member of the House who became head of the CIA. Porter was a friend of mine. Leon Panetta was a member of the House who became head of the CIA. When Leon was head of the Oceans Commission for Clinton, they gave me their Number One award for my international work on oceans.
That’s four CIA Directors – and George Bush. I can send you the clip, three months after they ruined my career, and they raided my daughter’s house and never talked to her, ever, no one ever talked to her.
George Bush came to our National Dinner in Washington, in front of 2,000 leaders, 2,000 Members of Congress. George Bush, the Father, who I fully respect, and he gave a tribute to me.
I’ll match that tribute to any other member of Congress. He said, “Congressman Walden.
(CUT TO: video of George Bush Sr commending Rep Curt Weldon)
“You’re the kind of person that America needs as a leader. It’s the goal of every political leader who is blessed with the opportunity to serve the public, to leave behind a legacy, a legacy that in some way makes our nation stronger, better, and safer.
“Curt, you’ve done just that through your dedication and your commitment to our nation’s one million First Responders. So on behalf of Barbara and myself, thank you for your 20 years of incredible service to this great nation, and best wishes, as you begin a new chapter in your life. Thank you, and may God bless America.”
That was George H.W. Bush. I’ll send you the video. They try to take the video down. It’s all over the internet now. I’ll send you that video.
I’m not anti-intelligence. I’m anti-scumbags in Intelligence who use it for their own personal gain, and they don’t care. They don’t care who gets killed! They don’t care who dies!
“There are no acceptable casualties! There are no soldiers who are ‘acceptable losses’! There are no firefighters who we can accept being killed!
“That’s not America! And that’s not why I have eight brothers and sisters all served in the military. I wanted to go in the Air Force Academy. I got the nomination, but I had bad eyes.
“I couldn’t get a waiver, so I devoted my life to firefighters. That’s what America is all about. It’s not about scumbags hiding behind the door, making money, and playing games to kill other people!
“That’s unfortunately, in some cases, what’s happened here. It’s got to stop!”
Clayton Morris: Congressman Kurt Weldon, I really appreciate you joining us.
I hope this message gets to the President. I hope that we have another investigative 9/11 committee that actually is whitewashing; a Presidential Task Force that looks at all of this and gets to the bottom of it. I think under President Trump, hopefully, we can get there.
Curt Weldon: If you keep speaking out, that’s what will do it. People got to watch your show. They got to spread your word. It’s the name of the game. I can’t do it. You can do it. Thank you.
Clayton Morris: Thank you.